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Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1901794] Wed, 23 June 2010 13:53 Go to next message
  jesso18  
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As the title says, just wondering what people think about this feed and which ones they use?
I think I like the sound of them!?
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1901797 is a reply to message #1901794 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1901802 is a reply to message #1901794 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
  jesso18  
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Gees your quick today!!
Yeah they sure do
http://www.jamesandson.com.au/index.php?p=36&t=Horse%20F eed%20Range
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1901807 is a reply to message #1901802 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My old agistment used to feed there stuff, All the horses liked it, never had a issue with it BUT it got very expensive so they changed to something cheaper.

edit to add, they fed High- E

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Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1901813 is a reply to message #1901794 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
  Groucho  
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OK Performance horse mix looks pretty good Cool , nice ingredients, no crappy fillers, nothing "by producty" about it

I like the protein and DE of it

The one thing though is the feed rate is massive...7.5kgs a day Surprised Surprised Surprised

The conditioner also looks good...but again the feed rate seems massive to me

I like their ingredients, just a 7.50kg feed rate for a 500kg horse seems pretty large

Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1901815 is a reply to message #1901807 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LOVE it ... use the High maintenance pellet ($20 for 30kg) and the high pro developer ($? but under $1/kg). and they deliver (need a 1000kg order tho! Embarassed )

We have everything from broodies, spelling racehorses, foals, weaners/ breakers, working stockhorses and warmbloods!



Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1901825 is a reply to message #1901815 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know a race stable that thats all they feed and well they have a few good horses and they always look well and race well..

I was feeding it but my horse could not handle it as in I found it heated him up.
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1901830 is a reply to message #1901794 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 14:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
  jesso18  
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Why I ask is because as Groucho said I like that there are no "fillers"!
I thought the same thing, that it was a large amount of feed!

The other plus is the bulks bags, meaning I won't have to buy if as often, given the illusion that it's cheaper.
I have found a source where I can get it quite cheap, cheaper than what I'm currently feeding!

Are their products on feedxl?
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1901835 is a reply to message #1901830 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 14:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jesso18 wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 14:14

Why I ask is because as Groucho said I like that there are no "fillers"!
I thought the same thing, that it was a large amount of feed!

The other plus is the bulks bags, meaning I won't have to buy if as often, given the illusion that it's cheaper.
I have found a source where I can get it quite cheap, cheaper than what I'm currently feeding!

Are their products on feedxl?


Im quite sure Ive seen them on there, so it might turn out you dont need the full feed rate....maybe Smile
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1901854 is a reply to message #1901794 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I shall go hunting!!!
See what I can find, it would be nice to be able to feed a reduced rate!
Thanks for your help
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1901915 is a reply to message #1901794 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I feed it and have done for a while now..
I feed the conditioner. My Galloways gets a dipper a day and some chaff.. He looks like a whale.


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Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1901968 is a reply to message #1901794 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 15:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used it for prob about 6mths. I fed the High E and it was fed to all x4 horses on the property (1x WB, 2x TB, 1x old mare).

I found my WB went insane on it... the two TB's and mare not so bad but still not their usual calm selves...

So changed their feed and the WB became 'sane' again Laughing

Balmoral use to feed it to all horses on the property, but changed feeds due to the expense of it... and they where buying it in bulka bags too
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1901998 is a reply to message #1901794 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I got upset when Grotorque not only reduced their bag size but increased the price aswell so we got a double wammy - however I did/do really like their product.

So while whinging at produce a trainer came in and suggested I try James and sons. We started using the HiPro as we have horses of all ages and I found it really good. Much cheaper than the grotorque and still a feed where you can actually see the ingredients ie. not pellets.

We never had a problem with the horses getting too hot but I can see it could be a problem as very high in grain - ofcourse depending on the one you get.

Also we had huge probs getting it into the Yarra Valley without having to order bulk bags and I didn't want them as you end up with a whole ton of feed open at once. They reckon the distributor out this way didn't deal with them at the time, but this could have changed?

But basically quite happy with them - just can't get all the way over to Sunshine at the moment to get them.
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902178 is a reply to message #1901794 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I won some at TTT Ct (High E)last year Very Happy but soon turned to Shocked .

My dear Rem went off her nut, unfortunately I found out how hot it made her while warming up at a SJ comp Embarassed . She certainly got off the ground but that was before and after the jumps. I didn't think she could buck so convincingly Shocked I think that it may have been the extra corn, but being no expert, I just took her off the feed and she reverted to my usual calm(er) girl.
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902368 is a reply to message #1901794 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 20:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Where you guys that are reporting hot behaviour feeding at the recommended rate?


Im trying to work out if its the ingredients or the quantity that would be causing the issue

The DE (Digestible Energy) isnt massively high considering the ingredients, so Im leaning towards to feed rate as the problem
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902389 is a reply to message #1901794 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was a little worried when I first read James and sons because I know that they are a huge supplier of Cattle feeds...but I see that their horse products come out of a designated horse feed mill. That is a relief. I wouldnt use horse feed that came out of a place that also had Rumensin go through their mill.

Ok now looking at the High E my...8.2 KGs a day!!! How much a kg is that?
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902440 is a reply to message #1901794 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yep - great stuff ! Started it ages ago, after winning a gift voucher at a comp. .... that's how I found out where they were in Ballarat !!
Used their Hi E and now other horse feeds of them, as my coach is sponsored by them and I order through her.
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Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902494 is a reply to message #1902440 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 21:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mary Hanna and Natasha Althoff use them so I'd be happy to use a product that's endorsed by either of those ladies as I'm sure they wouldn't put their names to something that they didn't feel was good.


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Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902527 is a reply to message #1902389 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mirrhi wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 20:25

I was a little worried when I first read James and sons because I know that they are a huge supplier of Cattle feeds...but I see that their horse products come out of a designated horse feed mill. That is a relief. I wouldnt use horse feed that came out of a place that also had Rumensin go through their mill.

Ok now looking at the High E my...8.2 KGs a day!!! How much a kg is that?


I had some free sample bags and liked it, but heard there was once a contamination scare a yr or 2 back, so maybe they have changed plants? I would be ringing and find out, if so I woulld be happy to use it again.


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Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902550 is a reply to message #1901794 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I use the conditioner and just love it. I have a WBXTB and she looks fantastic on it. It doesnt heat her up but maintains her condition. Having spoken to the company i think the recommendation of 7kg a day is typo. I only feed 3kg a aday and that is plenty i sometimes add the high E when i am working her harder.
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902693 is a reply to message #1902550 ] Wed, 23 June 2010 23:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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goodmich wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 22:16

I use the conditioner and just love it. I have ajavascript:%20insertTag(document.post_form.msg_body,%20'',% 20'%20:o%20'); WBXTB and she looks fantastic on it. It doesnt heat her up but maintains her condition. Having spoken to the company i think the recommendation of 7kg a day is typo Shocked . I only feed 3kg a aday and that is plenty i sometimes add the high E when i am working her harder.



I farking hope not!!! Thats a huge TYPO to have.. If they can fark that up then what about the feeds?? Confused Confused

I think I will ring myself and find out... Surprised
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902738 is a reply to message #1902550 ] Thu, 24 June 2010 06:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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goodmich wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 22:16

I use the conditioner and just love it. I have a WBXTB and she looks fantastic on it. It doesnt heat her up but maintains her condition. Having spoken to the company i think the recommendation of 7kg a day is typo. I only feed 3kg a aday and that is plenty i sometimes add the high E when i am working her harder.




All the feeds have the same recommended rate...so lots of typos if thats the case

Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902739 is a reply to message #1902389 ] Thu, 24 June 2010 06:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902831 is a reply to message #1902739 ] Thu, 24 June 2010 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I use it on my horse, he is a 5yr old WB, he has the conditioner and the high performance pellets.. but I am not feeding anywhere near the recommended amounts.
I just feed it with oaten chaff and he gets grass hay..
I think I weighed my scoop of the conditioner and it was 1.25kg and he gets half a scoop at most morning and night. the pellets I think weigh a bit more in my scoop but he really only gets the equivelant of 2 large handfuls of the pellets.
I did also try a bag of the high performance mix, which he loved, but he is a forward horse anyway so I decided not to continue with it.. I would only give a handful of it when he had a comp or something.
I am finding it really cheap and he loves it.. I just adjust the amounts as I see fit.. the pellets seem to help if you want to add a bit of weight to them, but again I have found I only need to feed small amounts..
My vet buys it in bulk and I just buy the bags from them..
It is on Feed XL as well as a friend did a analysis for me and was amazed that it all balanced really well..
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902840 is a reply to message #1902494 ] Thu, 24 June 2010 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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chezvic wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 21:44

Mary Hanna and Natasha Althoff use them so I'd be happy to use a product that's endorsed by either of those ladies as I'm sure they wouldn't put their names to something that they didn't feel was good.

Laughing Laughing You'd be surprised how many names are to a product and they are not used or haven't even be seen as such !!
Cheers MARTINA
PS: Oh, but nothing wrong with James & son horse feed, that's for sure Very Happy


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Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902848 is a reply to message #1901915 ] Thu, 24 June 2010 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jodievb wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 15:04

I feed it and have done for a while now..
I feed the conditioner. My Galloways gets a dipper a day and some chaff.. He looks like a whale.


Not surprised he is a whale ..... if you mean you use Ted's heavy truck "dipper" !!! Wow that would cost you a fortune a month to use that much feed Shocked Razz


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Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902889 is a reply to message #1901794 ] Thu, 24 June 2010 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I liked their feed but got unlucky enough to end up with a couple of bags of contaminated(material item that shouldnt have been in it) and havent used it since.

Having a few breeds we have varying requirements and I used to have a lot of different feeds to suit ...divided the brats into groups of who needs what.
Gives me the pip and I have settled on a small number of mixed feeds that I love.

The only pellets we use are(hygain) prodigy(only occassionally)...very carefully as you can ruin youngsters if you dont watch them...have also found them good for some of the ponies as a bit of 'extra'.

Mixed feeds we use are (hygain)show torque and (mitavite)athlete plus.
The reason we use these 2 mixed feeds is my fusspots cant pick out the things they dont like in the athlete plus Very Happy

Other than those it's oats,barley chaff etc and mix it myself.

I am very reluctant to use any feed that states it has protein meals but doesnt tell you exactly which meal.
Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902899 is a reply to message #1902889 ] Thu, 24 June 2010 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used to use High E & really liked how most of the horses went on it. One gelding went silly so he was put onto something else.
But the $$ and the feed store not having a constant supply has mde me go onto other feeds.
Still think High E is a great feed tho Smile


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Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902955 is a reply to message #1902848 ] Thu, 24 June 2010 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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martina wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 09:11

jodievb wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 15:04

I feed it and have done for a while now..
I feed the conditioner. My Galloways gets a dipper a day and some chaff.. He looks like a whale.


Not surprised he is a whale ..... if you mean you use Ted's heavy truck "dipper" !!! Wow that would cost you a fortune a month to use that much feed Shocked Razz



LOL no just a normal dipper. I can't help it he is a good doer.


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Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1902988 is a reply to message #1901835 ] Thu, 24 June 2010 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i use HIgh E and its epic. Good quality and Mouse loves it.
I've started feeding it to him over winter to give him something extra in the cold. He hasnt gotten hot or changed his behavior at all.


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Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1903072 is a reply to message #1902840 ] Thu, 24 June 2010 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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martina wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 09:07

chezvic wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 21:44

Mary Hanna and Natasha Althoff use them so I'd be happy to use a product that's endorsed by either of those ladies as I'm sure they wouldn't put their names to something that they didn't feel was good.

Laughing Laughing You'd be surprised how many names are to a product and they are not used or haven't even be seen as such !!
Cheers MARTINA
PS: Oh, but nothing wrong with James & son horse feed, that's for sure Very Happy


Tash's team at Ebony Park are all on James & Son feed - not just a face to a product Smile

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Kiki wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 11:13

martina wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 09:07

chezvic wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 21:44

Mary Hanna and Natasha Althoff use them so I'd be happy to use a product that's endorsed by either of those ladies as I'm sure they wouldn't put their names to something that they didn't feel was good.

Laughing Laughing You'd be surprised how many names are to a product and they are not used or haven't even be seen as such !!
Cheers MARTINA
PS: Oh, but nothing wrong with James & son horse feed, that's for sure Very Happy


Tash's team at Ebony Park are all on James & Son feed - not just a face to a product Smile


Sure - Sure ..... wasn't questioning it with above mentioned VIP's ! Just in general "products" - so I would still check it out for myself, even though "god" might be using it Razz
Cheers MARTINA
PS: I am a bit Confused about reading that it gave a few horses more energy or almost too much .... didn't happen to my horse Sad , but that was my intention !


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Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1904166 is a reply to message #1903818 ] Thu, 24 June 2010 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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was just reading this section with interest as I have fed lots of rescue cases on James & Son feed without any problems at all...at the moment I have a 32 year old rescue mare who stands at 14.2 hh...her name is Cleo and has been with me for 16 years....this year she lost her last tooth on the bottom off side...she has been fed combo mix (as she cannot eat hay or any course grass anymore) and 3kg of high maintenance pellets...at the moment she is doing very well off this feed but I have to keep a close eye on her because once she cannot hold her weight unfortunately the "hard decision" will have to be made....but at the moment has great delight in chasing the dogs around the paddock and looking forward to her feeds each day Smile
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sorry..posted twice Rolls Eyes

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Re: Thoughts on James & sons feed [message #1905053 is a reply to message #1903818 ] Fri, 25 June 2010 18:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Haha, no problem Martina. Just wanted to confirm incase others thought otherwise Smile

Interesting that there are so many horses that have become heated on it whilst others havnt.

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Mine are gallopers & do really well on the High E but the daily amount varies from 2kgs to 4 or 5, depending on horse so I reckon those whose horses heat up on it need look no further than energy intake vs. energy expended, in other words too much feed on too little work Shocked . Less than $1/kg is very reasonable imo, for the quality of product Thumbs Up
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