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Wed, 20 January 2010 13:36  |
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Ezza
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Is anyone else tired of dealing with kids when trying to buy things from the non commercial section?
I believe children (under 18) should only be allowed to read the non commercial section and must get their parents to enquire about items for sale or post wanted posts.
I have had two separate incidents in the last 2 weeks with under 18's selling things and in my experience they lack the maturity and responsiblity to complete a timely sale, and the knowledge that out of the courtesy they need to keep in touch with buyers, not to mention that most of the time they are not old enough to drive so cannot even personally get to a post office themselves, they have to rely on their parents which again is not fair to the buyer when they "forget" to tell them.
First instance was just today, I bought a market harborough from a member here who is 15, paid for it 4 weeks ago the day afer I said I would have it and still have not received it despite 2 or 3 promptings being told "i forgot" because they "had a new horse" and "busy getting ready for year 11" all of which is not my problem and was assured 5 days ago that it had been sent express post but 4 business days later have still not seen it.
Also last week I arranged to buy a saddle off myaushorse.com from a 16yo who, when I had heard nothing about postage cost, replied that she had sold it to her friend (without letting me know beforehand) because it was easier than posting. 
It is my belief that if adults were dealing with adults, this type of thing would happen much less as adults have a better idea of what is expected when selling or buying (well, some anyway...  ) Ebay does not allow anyone under 18 to hold an account with them for I imagine much the same reasons...
I have PM'd Luke (Administrator) RE the situation and have suggested some possbile solutions however I wondered if anyone else felt much the same, had any similar frustrating experiences or had any more ideas or solutions.
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| Re: Under 18's posting for sale adverts in Noncommerical. [message #1777583 is a reply to message #1777530 ] |
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| Ezza wrote on Thu, 01 April 2010 07:59 |
Speaking of once again...yet another young JMCer just jumping on the band wagon without reading the whole thread or taking in the details. If you bothered to read the original post PROPERLY, you would see I posted that in Jan, months before the "free foal" episode or indeed the rediculous saga regarding my own pony.
How about you trot back off to JMC now? kthxby.
Mmmm theres another one for the ignore pile... btw...i'd love it if you added me to your ignore list too...then hey! Peace! We don't have to see one anothers posts and can go on happily. OK? Awesome! 
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Don't give me the high and mighty speech on how I should trot back to the JMC, when I haven't caused any dramas surrounding giving away or selling or buying any horses or products on this forum. After your woeful display of maturity regarding the giveaway of that pony - maybe you should think before speaking down to me. I post in all parts of the forum and am not strictly belongging to the JMC at 18, but I do post in there and I will stand up for them in this case because you are trying to take away the rights of a group of members based on one experiance. And I can see the date thanks, I was simply starting that, that post is the reason JMC's get tarred with the same brush even though you would find a number of adds on the same page from juniors that go on to be proper sales minus any drama. And considering how much drama YOU caused, I think its fair to say your a prime example of an adult giveaway that was taking the same ridiculous selfish turn at the giveaway from that JMC ''member''.
I don't like to put people on ignore, I like to watch them dig themselves into deeper holes as time progresses. But feel free to add me to your ignore list if burying your head in the sand makes you feel better while you spat out insults based on one or two cases where you have been stupid ennough to get yourself ripped off or chastised buying or selling horses or products on this forum.
I better trot off now, considering you have me on ignore, maybe somebody should quote me. 
Rest in Peace, Little Pink Pony.
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| Re: Under 18's posting for sale adverts in Noncommerical. [message #1777602 is a reply to message #1777583 ] |
Thu, 01 April 2010 08:38 |
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Ezza
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| Steff_Stormy wrote on Thu, 01 April 2010 08:27 |
| Ezza wrote on Thu, 01 April 2010 07:59 |
Speaking of once again...yet another young JMCer just jumping on the band wagon without reading the whole thread or taking in the details. If you bothered to read the original post PROPERLY, you would see I posted that in Jan, months before the "free foal" episode or indeed the rediculous saga regarding my own pony.
How about you trot back off to JMC now? kthxby.
Mmmm theres another one for the ignore pile... btw...i'd love it if you added me to your ignore list too...then hey! Peace! We don't have to see one anothers posts and can go on happily. OK? Awesome!
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Don't give me the high and mighty speech on how I should trot back to the JMC, when I haven't caused any dramas surrounding giving away or selling or buying any horses or products on this forum. After your woeful display of maturity regarding the giveaway of that pony - maybe you should think before speaking down to me. I post in all parts of the forum and am not strictly belongging to the JMC at 18, but I do post in there and I will stand up for them in this case because you are trying to take away the rights of a group of members based on one experiance. And I can see the date thanks, I was simply starting that, that post is the reason JMC's get tarred with the same brush even though you would find a number of adds on the same page from juniors that go on to be proper sales minus any drama. And considering how much drama YOU caused, I think its fair to say your a prime example of an adult giveaway that was taking the same ridiculous selfish turn at the giveaway from that JMC ''member''.
I don't like to put people on ignore, I like to watch them dig themselves into deeper holes as time progresses. But feel free to add me to your ignore list if burying your head in the sand makes you feel better while you spat out insults based on one or two cases where you have been stupid ennough to get yourself ripped off or chastised buying or selling horses or products on this forum.
I better trot off now, considering you have me on ignore, maybe somebody should quote me.
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It's ok I'll quote you. I didn't cause the drama. I was made a post just looking for someone to take my pony on cause I can't afford to look after him adaquately anymore and everyone else decided to jump on my case when I said that I felt my only option should he not be taken was unfortunately to have him put on a truck which I pointed out many many times was not what I wanted for him. Yes I made an error mentioning that. So sue me. Then it turned into a drama.
And maybe I have a problem with JMCers cause they were the ones that gave me the most feral swearing abusive crap when they have no real idea about the situation or having to make a decision like that for a good portion of them as they themselves usually don't make the decisions about their horse or pay for any of it a lot of the time, their parents do/would and most of the time couldn't be bothered reading the whole thread.
Ok so if you like to "watch" ppl thats diff from commenting and getting involved isn't it? So obviously you don't just like to watch, you like to have a go.
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| Re: Under 18's posting for sale adverts in Noncommerical. [message #1777644 is a reply to message #1777602 ] |
Thu, 01 April 2010 08:52 |
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| Ezza wrote on Thu, 01 April 2010 08:38 |
| Steff_Stormy wrote on Thu, 01 April 2010 08:27 |
| Ezza wrote on Thu, 01 April 2010 07:59 |
Speaking of once again...yet another young JMCer just jumping on the band wagon without reading the whole thread or taking in the details. If you bothered to read the original post PROPERLY, you would see I posted that in Jan, months before the "free foal" episode or indeed the rediculous saga regarding my own pony.
How about you trot back off to JMC now? kthxby.
Mmmm theres another one for the ignore pile... btw...i'd love it if you added me to your ignore list too...then hey! Peace! We don't have to see one anothers posts and can go on happily. OK? Awesome!
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Don't give me the high and mighty speech on how I should trot back to the JMC, when I haven't caused any dramas surrounding giving away or selling or buying any horses or products on this forum. After your woeful display of maturity regarding the giveaway of that pony - maybe you should think before speaking down to me. I post in all parts of the forum and am not strictly belongging to the JMC at 18, but I do post in there and I will stand up for them in this case because you are trying to take away the rights of a group of members based on one experiance. And I can see the date thanks, I was simply starting that, that post is the reason JMC's get tarred with the same brush even though you would find a number of adds on the same page from juniors that go on to be proper sales minus any drama. And considering how much drama YOU caused, I think its fair to say your a prime example of an adult giveaway that was taking the same ridiculous selfish turn at the giveaway from that JMC ''member''.
I don't like to put people on ignore, I like to watch them dig themselves into deeper holes as time progresses. But feel free to add me to your ignore list if burying your head in the sand makes you feel better while you spat out insults based on one or two cases where you have been stupid ennough to get yourself ripped off or chastised buying or selling horses or products on this forum.
I better trot off now, considering you have me on ignore, maybe somebody should quote me.
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It's ok I'll quote you. I didn't cause the drama. I was made a post just looking for someone to take my pony on cause I can't afford to look after him adaquately anymore and everyone else decided to jump on my case when I said that I felt my only option should he not be taken was unfortunately to have him put on a truck which I pointed out many many times was not what I wanted for him. Yes I made an error mentioning that. So sue me. Then it turned into a drama.
And maybe I have a problem with JMCers cause they were the ones that gave me the most feral swearing abusive crap when they have no real idea about the situation or having to make a decision like that for a good portion of them as they themselves usually don't make the decisions about their horse or pay for any of it a lot of the time, their parents do/would and most of the time couldn't be bothered reading the whole thread.
Ok so if you like to "watch" ppl thats diff from commenting and getting involved isn't it? So obviously you don't just like to watch, you like to have a go.
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There were a few non-jmc members who were swearing and throwing abuse at you also and I wouldn't say your reaction back to them was much more mature at all. I don't want to drag this stuff about about your pony coz it has a good home and I think the topic should be burried. I meant the immatuirty you showed in where you would and wouldn't let the pony go - but you made the right decision in the end, so lets bury that and not go back.
And no, i'm not just going to ''watch'' this topic as you brand a group of people as unworthy of being able to sell or buy goods as a result of their age on this forum, because I know that is wrong. My point was, no matter what age, there are dicey people on this forum. If you do your research you'll work out who those people are quick smart. Banning under 18 members from buying and selling isn't what should be done. And i'm 18, so it doesn't directly impact on me, I just think its a stupid misconception of the junior members.
Once again - you are making an assumption about all junior members based on a few. Aside from that - when under 18 I made the decision to ge my pony put down and I payed for it. Plus multiple other vet bills trying to save him. Plus everything else leading up to that moment. Not all young people get their horses handed to them on a silver platter or get decisions made for them. And it's broad assumptions you make like that - which really piss me off. 
Rest in Peace, Little Pink Pony.
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| Re: Under 18's posting for sale adverts in Noncommerical. [message #1777654 is a reply to message #1662060 ] |
Thu, 01 April 2010 08:55 |
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Ezza
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Well Im here so how about everyone just gets over it.
I can't believe everyones gonna hold this massive grudge just cause of one thread which I made to actually find my pony a home. Apparently trying to find another home for a horse you can no longer afford when your finances turn to **** is totally the wrong thing to do. I could kinda understand if I had sent him to the doggers or whatever but gosh, he's got a nice home which all the ppl involved including myself are happy with and once they've actually spoken to me IE: on the phone, also now seem to understand, but hey, you don't know me, Im just a person behind a PC screen so why would you care?
Guess it's not only the kids that feel the need to swear at ppl...
And btw... what exactly is "my kind" finn? Other ppl have whinges about stuff and make sweeping statements and they're not continually abused etc. And other ppl are rude to others adn it's all forgotten within a day but oh! If Ezza says it well, thats diff isn't it!?
And btw steff...speaking of assumptions, everyone decided when I originally wasn't going to give Doc to ZZ that I wasn't going to give him to anyone and was going to send him away however as I wrote on teh thread, I was simply going to speak to the ppl that had offered him a home that hadn't abused me on the forum. But no one still to this day has gotten that point through their head.
And congrats on deciding and paying for your horse to be PTS. It is a hard decision, so would hope that someone like yourself would have understood.
Again, I didn't mean to tar everyone with the same brush, I'd just had a couple of bad experiences in a row and was having a VENT. Like no one else has done that before and made sweeping statements during their annoyance? Again, so sue me.
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Thu, 01 April 2010 10:37 |
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If this thread has shown anything, it's that age has sweet FA to do with maturity and responsibility.
I think that perhaps Steff was pointing out the irony of the situation - the OP complained about the lack of maturity, and a sense of responsibility wanting of an entire group of posters, based on nothing other than prejudice and skepticism.
Then, mere weeks after starting this thread prejudicially accusing others of behaving irresponsibly and unconscionably, and championing a cause of discrimination on the basis of age, the OP went on to show how she herself is able to personify these very characteristics, as is evidenced in the now infamous "giveaway pony" thread.
Steff, as usual, had a point.
Ezza, I couldn't care less if you stick around. I won't put you on ignore. I saw the thread, I saw your responses, and, while we're on the topic of age and maturity, I found it hard to believe that there is only one year's difference between you and I.
But I'm glad the pony now has an amazing home.
Buying from this place offers a unique advantage - the potential to research the people you're buying from.
Read the past posts of the person you're buying from, and judge the individual.
Finally, cos I bloody love a bit of Latin - Caveat Emptor.
“Why didn't evolution make a giraffe good at carpentry so it could build a ladder?”
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| Re: Under 18's posting for sale adverts in Noncommerical. [message #1778639 is a reply to message #1777654 ] |
Thu, 01 April 2010 17:06 |
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| Ezza wrote on Thu, 01 April 2010 08:55 |
Well Im here so how about everyone just gets over it.
I can't believe everyones gonna hold this massive grudge just cause of one thread which I made to actually find my pony a home. Apparently trying to find another home for a horse you can no longer afford when your finances turn to **** is totally the wrong thing to do. I could kinda understand if I had sent him to the doggers or whatever but gosh, he's got a nice home which all the ppl involved including myself are happy with and once they've actually spoken to me IE: on the phone, also now seem to understand, but hey, you don't know me, Im just a person behind a PC screen so why would you care?
Guess it's not only the kids that feel the need to swear at ppl...
And btw... what exactly is "my kind" finn? Other ppl have whinges about stuff and make sweeping statements and they're not continually abused etc. And other ppl are rude to others adn it's all forgotten within a day but oh! If Ezza says it well, thats diff isn't it!?
And btw steff...speaking of assumptions, everyone decided when I originally wasn't going to give Doc to ZZ that I wasn't going to give him to anyone and was going to send him away however as I wrote on teh thread, I was simply going to speak to the ppl that had offered him a home that hadn't abused me on the forum. But no one still to this day has gotten that point through their head.
And congrats on deciding and paying for your horse to be PTS. It is a hard decision, so would hope that someone like yourself would have understood.
Again, I didn't mean to tar everyone with the same brush, I'd just had a couple of bad experiences in a row and was having a VENT. Like no one else has done that before and made sweeping statements during their annoyance? Again, so sue me.
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It's not just one thread Ezza. You make an arse of yourself every time you post
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| Re: Under 18's posting for sale adverts in Noncommerical. [message #1779196 is a reply to message #1777644 ] |
Fri, 02 April 2010 06:05 |
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| Steff_Stormy wrote on Thu, 01 April 2010 08:52 |
| Ezza wrote on Thu, 01 April 2010 08:38 |
| Steff_Stormy wrote on Thu, 01 April 2010 08:27 |
| Ezza wrote on Thu, 01 April 2010 07:59 |
Speaking of once again...yet another young JMCer just jumping on the band wagon without reading the whole thread or taking in the details. If you bothered to read the original post PROPERLY, you would see I posted that in Jan, months before the "free foal" episode or indeed the rediculous saga regarding my own pony.
How about you trot back off to JMC now? kthxby.
Mmmm theres another one for the ignore pile... btw...i'd love it if you added me to your ignore list too...then hey! Peace! We don't have to see one anothers posts and can go on happily. OK? Awesome!
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Don't give me the high and mighty speech on how I should trot back to the JMC, when I haven't caused any dramas surrounding giving away or selling or buying any horses or products on this forum. After your woeful display of maturity regarding the giveaway of that pony - maybe you should think before speaking down to me. I post in all parts of the forum and am not strictly belongging to the JMC at 18, but I do post in there and I will stand up for them in this case because you are trying to take away the rights of a group of members based on one experiance. And I can see the date thanks, I was simply starting that, that post is the reason JMC's get tarred with the same brush even though you would find a number of adds on the same page from juniors that go on to be proper sales minus any drama. And considering how much drama YOU caused, I think its fair to say your a prime example of an adult giveaway that was taking the same ridiculous selfish turn at the giveaway from that JMC ''member''.
I don't like to put people on ignore, I like to watch them dig themselves into deeper holes as time progresses. But feel free to add me to your ignore list if burying your head in the sand makes you feel better while you spat out insults based on one or two cases where you have been stupid ennough to get yourself ripped off or chastised buying or selling horses or products on this forum.
I better trot off now, considering you have me on ignore, maybe somebody should quote me.
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It's ok I'll quote you. I didn't cause the drama. I was made a post just looking for someone to take my pony on cause I can't afford to look after him adaquately anymore and everyone else decided to jump on my case when I said that I felt my only option should he not be taken was unfortunately to have him put on a truck which I pointed out many many times was not what I wanted for him. Yes I made an error mentioning that. So sue me. Then it turned into a drama.
And maybe I have a problem with JMCers cause they were the ones that gave me the most feral swearing abusive crap when they have no real idea about the situation or having to make a decision like that for a good portion of them as they themselves usually don't make the decisions about their horse or pay for any of it a lot of the time, their parents do/would and most of the time couldn't be bothered reading the whole thread.
Ok so if you like to "watch" ppl thats diff from commenting and getting involved isn't it? So obviously you don't just like to watch, you like to have a go.
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There were a few non-jmc members who were swearing and throwing abuse at you also and I wouldn't say your reaction back to them was much more mature at all. I don't want to drag this stuff about about your pony coz it has a good home and I think the topic should be burried. I meant the immatuirty you showed in where you would and wouldn't let the pony go - but you made the right decision in the end, so lets bury that and not go back.
And no, i'm not just going to ''watch'' this topic as you brand a group of people as unworthy of being able to sell or buy goods as a result of their age on this forum, because I know that is wrong. My point was, no matter what age, there are dicey people on this forum. If you do your research you'll work out who those people are quick smart. Banning under 18 members from buying and selling isn't what should be done. And i'm 18, so it doesn't directly impact on me, I just think its a stupid misconception of the junior members.
Once again - you are making an assumption about all junior members based on a few. Aside from that - when under 18 I made the decision to ge my pony put down and I payed for it. Plus multiple other vet bills trying to save him. Plus everything else leading up to that moment. Not all young people get their horses handed to them on a silver platter or get decisions made for them. And it's broad assumptions you make like that - which really piss me off.
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| laurenmason49 |
Now im so new at this it aint funny and really need some to explain it to me. ive tried downloaded stuff off Google but dont really understand it. can someone please explain pretty much DRESSAGE to me. haha.
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| Re: Under 18's posting for sale adverts in Noncommerical. [message #1801673 is a reply to message #1679728 ] |
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| Equivarna wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 07:45 |
| Glenda wrote on Wed, 27 January 2010 11:34 |
Bullsh1t...everyone has a right to advertise on here, just because you had 2 bad experiences doesnt mean all kids should be tarred with the same brush......if you dont like dealing with kids, then dont......no one is forcing you to purchase from them......what are you going to suggest when you next get ripped off by an adult on here hmmmmm that only people with police checks be allowed to advertise......come into the real world.....its buyer beware....thats the risk you take when buying on line.....
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What Glenda said. I'd back a lot of the kids on here over some of the adults. Like any buyer, just do some research.
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i agree, im only 15 and i've seen both adults & kids stuff people around...
Everyone should have the right to post things on here, and if it ends badly then they have a bad name around the forum and THEN people get the right to accuse people and post threads about untrustworthy people.
Other than that, putting us kids down is plain mean. not ALL of us are like that.
Some adults have dealt out their fair share of abuse too.
that's true, it definitely is buyer beware!
To ride or not to ride, What a stupid question...
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