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Well all I can say I must be obese. I am 5 ft 3 and 71kg and ride in an 18 inch saddle. I am disgusted with myself how dare I but so much weight on my poor pony lol.
Would love to go on a world trip and not have a worry in the world.
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2715550 is a reply to message #2715520 ] |
Fri, 03 August 2012 20:59 |
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| comic wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:04 |
Again, a 17" stock saddle is pretty huge.
While I don't agree with the way he says things, and he does have a high opinion of himself, I have seen his training methods in operation and I like them.
If you want to fix a horse with a problem, he will help, and it won't take 12 months of wanky talk to do it. Unlike some others I could name.
Most of these men seem to have interesting personalities. 
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Exactly.
I am friends with him on FB and yes sometimes he has opinions and methods i dont agree with HOWEVER he is free with his advice. People are constantly posting photos onto his page asking for him advice and opinions and he gives it, most others would never give advice for free.
Yes he could have had more tact but people are missing the fact he is not talking ENGLISH SIZING he is talking western and a 17inch western is a darn big saddle.
I am sick of this already and everyone saying 'I am blah blah tall and blah blah kilos and ride in a 17inch' He is NOT i repeat NOT talking english sizing. Not.
Not english sizing.
Does not mean english 17 inch.
Doesn't mean english sizing.
Means western sizing.
Not english sizing.
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2715587 is a reply to message #2714972 ] |
Fri, 03 August 2012 21:58 |
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I don't care what the guy does in the rest of his life no one has any right to have a go at someone's weight like this, it is highly unacceptable behaviour.
"There is just as much horse sense as ever, but the horses have most of it."
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2715645 is a reply to message #2714972 ] |
Fri, 03 August 2012 23:21 |
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I often find the biggest egos go hand in hand with horses .....sad really cause there is nothing that will humble you quicker in reality but obviously humility is something that is preached and not practiced by many.......
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2715738 is a reply to message #2715550 ] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 08:44 |
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| Finn wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:59 |
| comic wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:04 |
Again, a 17" stock saddle is pretty huge.
While I don't agree with the way he says things, and he does have a high opinion of himself, I have seen his training methods in operation and I like them.
If you want to fix a horse with a problem, he will help, and it won't take 12 months of wanky talk to do it. Unlike some others I could name.
Most of these men seem to have interesting personalities.
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Exactly.
I am friends with him on FB and yes sometimes he has opinions and methods i dont agree with HOWEVER he is free with his advice. People are constantly posting photos onto his page asking for him advice and opinions and he gives it, most others would never give advice for free.
Yes he could have had more tact but people are missing the fact he is not talking ENGLISH SIZING he is talking western and a 17inch western is a darn big saddle.
I am sick of this already and everyone saying 'I am blah blah tall and blah blah kilos and ride in a 17inch' He is NOT i repeat NOT talking english sizing. Not.
Not english sizing.
Does not mean english 17 inch.
Doesn't mean english sizing.
Means western sizing.
Not english sizing.
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I must admit, I'm finding the double standard interesting. In one thread we have people howling with moral outrage that a horses welfare may have been compromised at the Olympics by certain training practices, and in another a man who has put the horses welfare above all else is being pilloried for little more than a lack of tact.
Whilst I personally find John's ego nauseating; perhaps if more people spent less time pandering to the delicate sensibilities of the obese, we might not be the fat lard arses that we are.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me.”
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2716047 is a reply to message #2715738 ] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 16:38 |
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| Equivarna wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 08:44 |
| Finn wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:59 |
| comic wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:04 |
Again, a 17" stock saddle is pretty huge.
While I don't agree with the way he says things, and he does have a high opinion of himself, I have seen his training methods in operation and I like them.
If you want to fix a horse with a problem, he will help, and it won't take 12 months of wanky talk to do it. Unlike some others I could name.
Most of these men seem to have interesting personalities.
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Exactly.
I am friends with him on FB and yes sometimes he has opinions and methods i dont agree with HOWEVER he is free with his advice. People are constantly posting photos onto his page asking for him advice and opinions and he gives it, most others would never give advice for free.
Yes he could have had more tact but people are missing the fact he is not talking ENGLISH SIZING he is talking western and a 17inch western is a darn big saddle.
I am sick of this already and everyone saying 'I am blah blah tall and blah blah kilos and ride in a 17inch' He is NOT i repeat NOT talking english sizing. Not.
Not english sizing.
Does not mean english 17 inch.
Doesn't mean english sizing.
Means western sizing.
Not english sizing.
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I must admit, I'm finding the double standard interesting. In one thread we have people howling with moral outrage that a horses welfare may have been compromised at the Olympics by certain training practices, and in another a man who has put the horses welfare above all else is being pilloried for little more than a lack of tact.
Whilst I personally find John's ego nauseating; perhaps if more people spent less time pandering to the delicate sensibilities of the obese, we might not be the fat lard arses that we are.
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I agree with you there. It is socially acceptable to comment on people's disregard for their health when smoking but not being overweight, which I find interesting.
Mind you I don't mean overweight as in anything more than a size 8 which is just ridiculous, I mean people that are actually eating themselves to death.
This man sounds like an absolute tool, no doubt about it.
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2716068 is a reply to message #2715196 ] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 17:00 |
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| loubar wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 11:50 |
| Hollywood wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 11:42 |
Agree that the 17" saddle he was referring to was probably a stock/half breed size which would be approximately 2" bigger in an English size.....I rode in a 17.5" in English saddles and ride in a 16" western......HOWEVER, regardless of this, his comments are disgusting! 
I 'friended' him on FB a while ago.....thinking there's always something to learn from different trainers.....all I learnt was that he was an arrogant prick of a man and promptly 'unfriended' him! 
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Me three 
He really seems to be a misogynist. He was ranting about supermarket vegetables being genetically modified to go off within 3 days. I suggested this was untrue and was more likely due to their time in cool store...
Guess what? Apparently I'm an ignorant female who has no idea about anything  despite having grown up on farms with a parent who worked at both an agricultural college AND an agricultural research station... 
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2716100 is a reply to message #2715460 ] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 17:51 |
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I weigh 50kg and ride in a 17" because I have long legs....... What a strange, strange man.....
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2716108 is a reply to message #2715738 ] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 18:00 |
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| Equivarna wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 08:44 |
| Finn wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:59 |
| comic wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:04 |
Again, a 17" stock saddle is pretty huge.
While I don't agree with the way he says things, and he does have a high opinion of himself, I have seen his training methods in operation and I like them.
If you want to fix a horse with a problem, he will help, and it won't take 12 months of wanky talk to do it. Unlike some others I could name.
Most of these men seem to have interesting personalities.
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Exactly.
I am friends with him on FB and yes sometimes he has opinions and methods i dont agree with HOWEVER he is free with his advice. People are constantly posting photos onto his page asking for him advice and opinions and he gives it, most others would never give advice for free.
Yes he could have had more tact but people are missing the fact he is not talking ENGLISH SIZING he is talking western and a 17inch western is a darn big saddle.
I am sick of this already and everyone saying 'I am blah blah tall and blah blah kilos and ride in a 17inch' He is NOT i repeat NOT talking english sizing. Not.
Not english sizing.
Does not mean english 17 inch.
Doesn't mean english sizing.
Means western sizing.
Not english sizing.
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I must admit, I'm finding the double standard interesting. In one thread we have people howling with moral outrage that a horses welfare may have been compromised at the Olympics by certain training practices, and in another a man who has put the horses welfare above all else is being pilloried for little more than a lack of tact.
Whilst I personally find John's ego nauseating; perhaps if more people spent less time pandering to the delicate sensibilities of the obese, we might not be the fat lard arses that we are.
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For starters, I think it's all in his head half of the stuff he rants on about, and he only cares about horses as much as the next person! I don't believe he's gods gift to the horse world, which he obviously does. I don't even LIKE his training methods. And secondly, in what way was he putting the horses welfare first in this particular case?? Did he ask the breed and height of the horse?? Did he ask the owners age or weight?? NO he just made an assumption based on a saddle size, which is both offensive and incredibly arrogant.
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2716142 is a reply to message #2715738 ] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 18:39 |
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| Equivarna wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 08:44 |
| Finn wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:59 |
| comic wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:04 |
Again, a 17" stock saddle is pretty huge.
While I don't agree with the way he says things, and he does have a high opinion of himself, I have seen his training methods in operation and I like them.
If you want to fix a horse with a problem, he will help, and it won't take 12 months of wanky talk to do it. Unlike some others I could name.
Most of these men seem to have interesting personalities.
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Exactly.
I am friends with him on FB and yes sometimes he has opinions and methods i dont agree with HOWEVER he is free with his advice. People are constantly posting photos onto his page asking for him advice and opinions and he gives it, most others would never give advice for free.
Yes he could have had more tact but people are missing the fact he is not talking ENGLISH SIZING he is talking western and a 17inch western is a darn big saddle.
I am sick of this already and everyone saying 'I am blah blah tall and blah blah kilos and ride in a 17inch' He is NOT i repeat NOT talking english sizing. Not.
Not english sizing.
Does not mean english 17 inch.
Doesn't mean english sizing.
Means western sizing.
Not english sizing.
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I must admit, I'm finding the double standard interesting. In one thread we have people howling with moral outrage that a horses welfare may have been compromised at the Olympics by certain training practices, and in another a man who has put the horses welfare above all else is being pilloried for little more than a lack of tact.
Whilst I personally find John's ego nauseating; perhaps if more people spent less time pandering to the delicate sensibilities of the obese, we might not be the fat lard arses that we are.
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Yep well said.
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2716183 is a reply to message #2716152 ] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 19:30 |
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| zam zam wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 18:53 |
PR skills, customer service, professionalism........ he doesnt have any.
There is a wrong and a right way of handling a situation, bottom line is he sucks at it, in this instance he was rude and arrogant, now he will pay the price for it.
Dickhead!
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Exactly! A simple 'sorry I no longer carry that size saddle' is sufficient, there was no need to comment further on someone's size and weight when he hasnt even met them!
Years ago a friend brought a 22in stock saddle that had been originally custom made for a tall footballer, doesnt mean he was too heavy to ride just because he needed that size saddle to ride in!
Live your life in such a way that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says...
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2716192 is a reply to message #2716183 ] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 19:37 |
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| Neisje wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 19:30 |
| zam zam wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 18:53 |
PR skills, customer service, professionalism........ he doesnt have any.
There is a wrong and a right way of handling a situation, bottom line is he sucks at it, in this instance he was rude and arrogant, now he will pay the price for it.
Dickhead!
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Exactly! A simple 'sorry I no longer carry that size saddle' is sufficient, there was no need to comment further on someone's size and weight when he hasnt even met them!
Years ago a friend brought a 22in stock saddle that had been originally custom made for a tall footballer, doesnt mean he was too heavy to ride just because he needed that size saddle to ride in!
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Totally agree.
Those that think it forgiveable because "fat people wouldn't be fat if we told them so" are kidding themselves. The only reason to be nasty to people is because you enjoy putting others down.
I've told people that a young horse I was selling wouldn't be up to their weight - haven't felt the need to insult them at the same time.
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2716242 is a reply to message #2715738 ] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 20:56 |
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| Equivarna wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 08:44 |
| Finn wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:59 |
| comic wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:04 |
Again, a 17" stock saddle is pretty huge.
While I don't agree with the way he says things, and he does have a high opinion of himself, I have seen his training methods in operation and I like them.
If you want to fix a horse with a problem, he will help, and it won't take 12 months of wanky talk to do it. Unlike some others I could name.
Most of these men seem to have interesting personalities.
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Exactly.
I am friends with him on FB and yes sometimes he has opinions and methods i dont agree with HOWEVER he is free with his advice. People are constantly posting photos onto his page asking for him advice and opinions and he gives it, most others would never give advice for free.
Yes he could have had more tact but people are missing the fact he is not talking ENGLISH SIZING he is talking western and a 17inch western is a darn big saddle.
I am sick of this already and everyone saying 'I am blah blah tall and blah blah kilos and ride in a 17inch' He is NOT i repeat NOT talking english sizing. Not.
Not english sizing.
Does not mean english 17 inch.
Doesn't mean english sizing.
Means western sizing.
Not english sizing.
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I must admit, I'm finding the double standard interesting. In one thread we have people howling with moral outrage that a horses welfare may have been compromised at the Olympics by certain training practices, and in another a man who has put the horses welfare above all else is being pilloried for little more than a lack of tact.
Whilst I personally find John's ego nauseating; perhaps if more people spent less time pandering to the delicate sensibilities of the obese, we might not be the fat lard arses that we are.
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You get it, the majority here don't. I'm guessing that's because fat is the new thin!
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2716252 is a reply to message #2714972 ] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 21:11 |
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Weight is not for strangers over the internet, it is something for family, friends and those actually connected to the individual to comment on.
I still can't believe that people are defending this man's 'right' to comment on a subject he knew nothing about outside of a saddle size request.
"There is just as much horse sense as ever, but the horses have most of it."
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2716261 is a reply to message #2716242 ] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 21:21 |
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zam zam
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| sprintman wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 20:56 |
| Equivarna wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 08:44 |
| Finn wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:59 |
| comic wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:04 |
Again, a 17" stock saddle is pretty huge.
While I don't agree with the way he says things, and he does have a high opinion of himself, I have seen his training methods in operation and I like them.
If you want to fix a horse with a problem, he will help, and it won't take 12 months of wanky talk to do it. Unlike some others I could name.
Most of these men seem to have interesting personalities.
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Exactly.
I am friends with him on FB and yes sometimes he has opinions and methods i dont agree with HOWEVER he is free with his advice. People are constantly posting photos onto his page asking for him advice and opinions and he gives it, most others would never give advice for free.
Yes he could have had more tact but people are missing the fact he is not talking ENGLISH SIZING he is talking western and a 17inch western is a darn big saddle.
I am sick of this already and everyone saying 'I am blah blah tall and blah blah kilos and ride in a 17inch' He is NOT i repeat NOT talking english sizing. Not.
Not english sizing.
Does not mean english 17 inch.
Doesn't mean english sizing.
Means western sizing.
Not english sizing.
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I must admit, I'm finding the double standard interesting. In one thread we have people howling with moral outrage that a horses welfare may have been compromised at the Olympics by certain training practices, and in another a man who has put the horses welfare above all else is being pilloried for little more than a lack of tact.
Whilst I personally find John's ego nauseating; perhaps if more people spent less time pandering to the delicate sensibilities of the obese, we might not be the fat lard arses that we are.
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You get it, the majority here don't. I'm guessing that's because fat is the new thin!
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Are you assuming those posting are overweight?
If so you are so very wrong!
I personally can ride in a 15 inch english saddle, small enough?
I"m a business owner, customer service is paramount to success.
Rudeness and arrogance is not!
If it sparkles or its fluffy its all good.
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2716264 is a reply to message #2716261 ] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 21:26 |
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| zam zam wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 21:21 |
| sprintman wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 20:56 |
| Equivarna wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 08:44 |
| Finn wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:59 |
| comic wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:04 |
Again, a 17" stock saddle is pretty huge.
While I don't agree with the way he says things, and he does have a high opinion of himself, I have seen his training methods in operation and I like them.
If you want to fix a horse with a problem, he will help, and it won't take 12 months of wanky talk to do it. Unlike some others I could name.
Most of these men seem to have interesting personalities.
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Exactly.
I am friends with him on FB and yes sometimes he has opinions and methods i dont agree with HOWEVER he is free with his advice. People are constantly posting photos onto his page asking for him advice and opinions and he gives it, most others would never give advice for free.
Yes he could have had more tact but people are missing the fact he is not talking ENGLISH SIZING he is talking western and a 17inch western is a darn big saddle.
I am sick of this already and everyone saying 'I am blah blah tall and blah blah kilos and ride in a 17inch' He is NOT i repeat NOT talking english sizing. Not.
Not english sizing.
Does not mean english 17 inch.
Doesn't mean english sizing.
Means western sizing.
Not english sizing.
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I must admit, I'm finding the double standard interesting. In one thread we have people howling with moral outrage that a horses welfare may have been compromised at the Olympics by certain training practices, and in another a man who has put the horses welfare above all else is being pilloried for little more than a lack of tact.
Whilst I personally find John's ego nauseating; perhaps if more people spent less time pandering to the delicate sensibilities of the obese, we might not be the fat lard arses that we are.
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You get it, the majority here don't. I'm guessing that's because fat is the new thin!
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Are you assuming those posting are overweight?
If so you are so very wrong!
I personally can ride in a 15 inch english saddle, small enough?
I"m a business owner, customer service is paramount to success.
Rudeness and arrogance is not!
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You made an incorrect assumption.
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2716274 is a reply to message #2716264 ] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 21:44 |
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zam zam
Messages: 11538
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Out of my way, I am in the midst of a hoo haa monologue |
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| sprintman wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 21:26 |
| zam zam wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 21:21 |
| sprintman wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 20:56 |
| Equivarna wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 08:44 |
| Finn wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:59 |
| comic wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:04 |
Again, a 17" stock saddle is pretty huge.
While I don't agree with the way he says things, and he does have a high opinion of himself, I have seen his training methods in operation and I like them.
If you want to fix a horse with a problem, he will help, and it won't take 12 months of wanky talk to do it. Unlike some others I could name.
Most of these men seem to have interesting personalities.
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Exactly.
I am friends with him on FB and yes sometimes he has opinions and methods i dont agree with HOWEVER he is free with his advice. People are constantly posting photos onto his page asking for him advice and opinions and he gives it, most others would never give advice for free.
Yes he could have had more tact but people are missing the fact he is not talking ENGLISH SIZING he is talking western and a 17inch western is a darn big saddle.
I am sick of this already and everyone saying 'I am blah blah tall and blah blah kilos and ride in a 17inch' He is NOT i repeat NOT talking english sizing. Not.
Not english sizing.
Does not mean english 17 inch.
Doesn't mean english sizing.
Means western sizing.
Not english sizing.
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I must admit, I'm finding the double standard interesting. In one thread we have people howling with moral outrage that a horses welfare may have been compromised at the Olympics by certain training practices, and in another a man who has put the horses welfare above all else is being pilloried for little more than a lack of tact.
Whilst I personally find John's ego nauseating; perhaps if more people spent less time pandering to the delicate sensibilities of the obese, we might not be the fat lard arses that we are.
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You get it, the majority here don't. I'm guessing that's because fat is the new thin!
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Are you assuming those posting are overweight?
If so you are so very wrong!
I personally can ride in a 15 inch english saddle, small enough?
I"m a business owner, customer service is paramount to success.
Rudeness and arrogance is not!
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You made an incorrect assumption.
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and your guess "fat is the new thin"?
Acceptance that people come in all shapes and sizes is becoming the norm.
Whilst on the topic of assumption what size saddle do you think someone like Serena Williams would need?
If it sparkles or its fluffy its all good.
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| Re: John O'Leary and his 'opinions' [message #2716297 is a reply to message #2716142 ] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 22:23 |
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| Finn wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 18:39 |
| Equivarna wrote on Sat, 04 August 2012 08:44 |
| Finn wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:59 |
| comic wrote on Fri, 03 August 2012 20:04 |
Again, a 17" stock saddle is pretty huge.
While I don't agree with the way he says things, and he does have a high opinion of himself, I have seen his training methods in operation and I like them.
If you want to fix a horse with a problem, he will help, and it won't take 12 months of wanky talk to do it. Unlike some others I could name.
Most of these men seem to have interesting personalities.
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Exactly.
I am friends with him on FB and yes sometimes he has opinions and methods i dont agree with HOWEVER he is free with his advice. People are constantly posting photos onto his page asking for him advice and opinions and he gives it, most others would never give advice for free.
Yes he could have had more tact but people are missing the fact he is not talking ENGLISH SIZING he is talking western and a 17inch western is a darn big saddle.
I am sick of this already and everyone saying 'I am blah blah tall and blah blah kilos and ride in a 17inch' He is NOT i repeat NOT talking english sizing. Not.
Not english sizing.
Does not mean english 17 inch.
Doesn't mean english sizing.
Means western sizing.
Not english sizing.
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I must admit, I'm finding the double standard interesting. In one thread we have people howling with moral outrage that a horses welfare may have been compromised at the Olympics by certain training practices, and in another a man who has put the horses welfare above all else is being pilloried for little more than a lack of tact.
Whilst I personally find John's ego nauseating; perhaps if more people spent less time pandering to the delicate sensibilities of the obese, we might not be the fat lard arses that we are.
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Yep well said.
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I agree with Equivarna as well!
I have found some of his youtube clips very helpful. While I agree that he has a big ego, so do many other high profile horse people!!
And, lastly, he may be very blunt, he does have the horses welfare as a priority, which is always a good thing!
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Sun, 05 August 2012 09:16 |
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madsyoudork
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Despite his methods, whether he has the horse's welfare at heart or not, this is not a good way to conduct business and at an even more basic level than that, it is not a good way to treat other people.
I don't go around spouting racist, sexist, xenophobic or bigoted comments and then excuse myself on the basis that I'm 'telling it like it is'. Imagine if we all did that? I know in redneck circles political correctness is frowned upon but I don't think it's about applying to social standards for the sake of being PC. I think it's about treating other people with respect.
In this situation, as far as we know, John O'Leary had not seen the person in question. He didn't know her from a bar of soap. So what on earth made him respond to her inquiry in such a rude way? Sure, he's allowed, but I think it reveals a hell of a lot about him. To me it's another offence in a long list of him being behaving in print like a chauvinist, racist douchebag. And that's enough to stop me from supporting him in the future, no matter what he's like in person. Why wouldn't he just write that he no longer stocks those saddles on the basis of welfare. Why not leave it at that if he had to? His hubris is rather astounding and I think people have every right to say that. And that's ME 'telling it like it is' 
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