| Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1869242] |
Mon, 31 May 2010 11:57  |
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Just FYI - you know you can report electronic fraudulent activity through to the Police as they have an electronic fraud division. Very handy when you have a sellers bank account details but you haven't received the item you have purchased.
I've had to do this once before over a saddle so I know from first hand experience.
[Updated on: Tue, 01 June 2010 03:58] by Moderator
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1869313 is a reply to message #1869242 ] |
Mon, 31 May 2010 12:35  |
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This is great info, thanks for posting.
Unfortunately, I've been stung before but didn't know what to do 
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1869420 is a reply to message #1869242 ] |
Mon, 31 May 2010 13:32 |
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I'll post the details over my pursuit of jumpingfreak through this process over the next couple of days if my neck rug doesn't turn up. If it does turn up, I'll post the generic links/forms you'll need to follow.
We should learn about all our avenues of claims we have available to us in these matters esp as we become a society that is buying more and more items via the net. Efraud is becoming all too frequent.
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1869589 is a reply to message #1869242 ] |
Mon, 31 May 2010 15:08 |
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But alias Vichorse members who wish to be dodgy seller have bank account details that they too kindly give out to carry out their fraudulent activity.
We might not be able to track their details via the bank but the Police sure can!  
At the end of teh day it is theft and it is a crime!
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1872014 is a reply to message #1870087 ] |
Tue, 01 June 2010 22:21 |
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Thanks for posting this Info.
I should still have my dodgey suppliers details.
Disconnected phone number and addres. So maybe if she sent my skinny hood I wouldn't have to take things any further.
Hi
I havent had a chance to post your skinny hoods yet. I should be able to over the weekend, or on monday.
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SM Designs.... Where every pixel counts.
Hi,
Thats fine, hope everything went well at the show.
My internet banking details are:
SM Designs
BSB IDO HAVE THEM>>>
ACCOUNT NO.
Let me know if you want ones to put over the counter. Also if your interested i found a navy earwig one as well, with is a large.
If your want both, just make it $20 total wich includes the postage.
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SM Designs.... Where every pixel counts
no worries, ill throw it in the wash for ya!!
My mobile got a bath of its own earlier so ring my friend on 03 9776 {I do have the rest} and she will meet you.
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SM Designs.... Where every pixel counts.
[Updated on: Tue, 01 June 2010 22:31]
"To ride a horse is to ride the sky"
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1873131 is a reply to message #1872014 ] |
Wed, 02 June 2010 16:03 |
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| jac a roo wrote on Tue, 01 June 2010 22:21 |
Thanks for posting this Info.
I should still have my dodgey suppliers details.
Disconnected phone number and addres. So maybe if she sent my skinny hood I wouldn't have to take things any further.
Hi
I havent had a chance to post your skinny hoods yet. I should be able to over the weekend, or on monday.
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SM Designs.... Where every pixel counts.
Hi,
Thats fine, hope everything went well at the show.
My internet banking details are:
SM Designs
BSB IDO HAVE THEM>>>
ACCOUNT NO.
Let me know if you want ones to put over the counter. Also if your interested i found a navy earwig one as well, with is a large.
If your want both, just make it $20 total wich includes the postage.
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SM Designs.... Where every pixel counts
no worries, ill throw it in the wash for ya!!
My mobile got a bath of its own earlier so ring my friend on 03 9776 {I do have the rest} and she will meet you.
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SM Designs.... Where every pixel counts.
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obviously you didn't realise that SM designs is jup jup a well know forum fraudster...
the police are well aware of her I believe
Offical member of the AHC Somerville branch.
2007 HOOFA's Award - Bestest Poker player on the Forum
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1873615 is a reply to message #1873131 ] |
Wed, 02 June 2010 20:46 |
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No claire1
I didn't know but now i am a little more aware this happen back in feb march
I have since heard i wasn't alone.
i will not advertise Wanted ads anymore.
"To ride a horse is to ride the sky"
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1873711 is a reply to message #1869242 ] |
Wed, 02 June 2010 21:49 |
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Good old jup jup at her same old tricks ?
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1889473 is a reply to message #1869242 ] |
Sun, 13 June 2010 23:33 |
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can someome please post the contact details for the police for the E Fraud!!!!!!!!!!!! sounds like heaps are getting done for this, and not just on small items, I hear its happening with floats & saddles. Do these people care that we all work hard legally for our money to live our dreams with our horses, we dont need these types of people destroying our dreams.
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1889597 is a reply to message #1869242 ] |
Mon, 14 June 2010 08:23 |
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I am going through this process atm... (but because i bought an item off ebay). I've lost nearly $800 - i bought a saddle.
ebay cannot do anything, the bank could not do anything & i have been told that the police can investigate but there is buckleys chance of my getting my money back unless i spend a few hundred dollars taking it all to the small claims court.
It is SO easy for someone to take someones money for an item they have advertised but does not exist!
Very frustrating situation to be in let me tell you!!!! 
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1890489 is a reply to message #1889597 ] |
Mon, 14 June 2010 20:55 |
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Hmm, this is handy to know.
*cough* jumpingfreak *cough*
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1892176 is a reply to message #1869242 ] |
Wed, 16 June 2010 04:50 |
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I have recently bought two items privately both have failed to arrive within two weeks, both sellers have failed to provide a tracking number for the supposed registered post/express posted item.
Have just done some reading:
http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/268478
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Your online rights: the low-down
When dealing with a seller based in Australia, you have the same basic rights online as you do offline. For example, the Trade Practices Act makes it unlawful for a seller to mislead or deceive you about your purchase or the purchase price and requires a seller to supply goods that match the advertised description. In some cases, a seller must give you a refund, or repair or replace faulty goods.
If you buy online from a seller based overseas, the same rights may apply, however it could be more challenging for you to resolve any issues that arise as the seller is outside Australia
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How to complain:
http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/815327#h3_ 59
and Scamwatch
http://www.scamwatch.gov.au/content/index.phtml/tag/reportas cam
below will find the contact details for the individual state bodies in which the scammer resides and committed the crime
[Updated on: Wed, 16 June 2010 04:53]
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1895748 is a reply to message #1869420 ] |
Fri, 18 June 2010 17:21 |
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Hi Grove_burger, just wondering how you got on with your fraudster, did the gear finally arrive?
I am about to give it a go with blmf, have exhausted all avenues of shaming Leah to get her to at least provide the mythical tracking number from two weeks ago and I have been ripped off three times in past 4 weeks by online sellers, that is over $700 of my hard earnt money, luckily one is a Ebay PayPal purchase for a saddle, have just a few days to go and my refund will be in my bank Visa, but these private conartists are another story. I have had a gutful. I have Leah's bank details, name, address etc and am getting a letter together, living interstate it is not like I can take a weekend drive and say "Hi".
From now on I will insist on PayPal if they want me to part with my money and I will be happy to provide the service too, you just can't take people from what they put out there on forums about themselves any longer
[Updated on: Sat, 19 June 2010 02:34]
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1897699 is a reply to message #1873131 ] |
Sun, 20 June 2010 15:23 |
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| claire1 wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 16:03 |
| jac a roo wrote on Tue, 01 June 2010 22:21 |
Thanks for posting this Info.
I should still have my dodgey suppliers details.
Disconnected phone number and addres. So maybe if she sent my skinny hood I wouldn't have to take things any further.
Hi
I havent had a chance to post your skinny hoods yet. I should be able to over the weekend, or on monday.
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SM Designs.... Where every pixel counts.
Hi,
Thats fine, hope everything went well at the show.
My internet banking details are:
SM Designs
BSB IDO HAVE THEM>>>
ACCOUNT NO.
Let me know if you want ones to put over the counter. Also if your interested i found a navy earwig one as well, with is a large.
If your want both, just make it $20 total wich includes the postage.
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SM Designs.... Where every pixel counts
no worries, ill throw it in the wash for ya!!
My mobile got a bath of its own earlier so ring my friend on 03 9776 {I do have the rest} and she will meet you.
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SM Designs.... Where every pixel counts.
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obviously you didn't realise that SM designs is jup jup a well know forum fraudster...
SM Designs
also a fraud web designer! my club was also caught out by this biatch...we have her details but she keeps moving around but what goes around comes around
the police are well aware of her I believe
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http://ullinalodge.webs.com/
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1909233 is a reply to message #1869242 ] |
Tue, 29 June 2010 05:51 |
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After paying a SA resident money for a riding jacket back on 2/6 that never arrived, she refused to refund and also refused to send proof she had even sent it, couldn't even give a date of post  I requested a full refund as did the forum administrators. I was also having my private email system filled with vile and obscene emails from her, too filthy and disgusting to post here. Another member PM'd to state she copped the same abuse over a horse float, I do believe in karma, so I have taken this all up with SA police, via Crime Stoppers, got this reply yesterday from Crime Stoppers:
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Thank you for your email.
You are a victim of a crime and therefore you need to attend your local police station to report this matter, where they will take a police report and statement from you. When you attend the police station please take all documentation that may assist in identifying the person.
Regards
Crime Stoppers
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So there you have it, there are now active Austrlian laws to protect people from online fraudsters, stalkers, bullies and the like that believe they will not be held accountable for their actions. I will be heading down to our local PD this week to start the process, in her fits of rage at being questioned she had inadvertently provided me with all of her personal contact details and I also have the all important bank account, ISP numbers etc
The fraudster told me a few days ago to 'go for it' (I do believe she thinks she is untouchable from the law), she added also some more filth to her reply, so that is what I am going to do, go and have the law deal with her.
Karma will be hopefully paying this character a nice little surprise in the near future.
[Updated on: Tue, 29 June 2010 05:57]
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1952949 is a reply to message #1869242 ] |
Sat, 31 July 2010 11:57 |
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How absolutey fascinating and an interesting read. Thankyou to those who post their stories so we can all learn. Happy I have not yet had to use it....
[Updated on: Tue, 03 August 2010 16:18]
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #1963034 is a reply to message #1897699 ] |
Sat, 07 August 2010 13:00 |
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| deliveryhorse wrote on Sun, 20 June 2010 15:23 |
| claire1 wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 16:03 |
| jac a roo wrote on Tue, 01 June 2010 22:21 |
Thanks for posting this Info.
I should still have my dodgey suppliers details.
Disconnected phone number and addres. So maybe if she sent my skinny hood I wouldn't have to take things any further.
Hi
I havent had a chance to post your skinny hoods yet. I should be able to over the weekend, or on monday.
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SM Designs.... Where every pixel counts.
Hi,
Thats fine, hope everything went well at the show.
My internet banking details are:
SM Designs
BSB IDO HAVE THEM>>>
ACCOUNT NO.
Let me know if you want ones to put over the counter. Also if your interested i found a navy earwig one as well, with is a large.
If your want both, just make it $20 total wich includes the postage.
------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------
SM Designs.... Where every pixel counts
no worries, ill throw it in the wash for ya!!
My mobile got a bath of its own earlier so ring my friend on 03 9776 {I do have the rest} and she will meet you.
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SM Designs.... Where every pixel counts.
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obviously you didn't realise that SM designs is jup jup a well know forum fraudster...
SM Designs
also a fraud web designer! my club was also caught out by this biatch...we have her details but she keeps moving around but what goes around comes around
the police are well aware of her I believe
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oh she's a biatch of a thing isn't she ....... Its because of all of your experiences I would NEVER buy another thing off this forum unless I knew the person personally or had some very good references about how they handle their business. It's such a shame ..... oh well the good old internet, just another way to rip people off !
For any of you with outstanding dealings with SM Designs I would most certainly be making a complaint. Cranbourne police are well and truly aware of her ........ scammer, thief, liar, fraudster ...........
Meryl - (but you can call me Marion)
Authorised member of the “ph Club”
Certificate MAC3475
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #2065378 is a reply to message #1869242 ] |
Thu, 04 November 2010 00:21 |
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Thanks for this information...I have just forked out good money for a show jumping saddle that has never arrived 
As it turns out, 2 other people I know of have had the same thing done by the same seller
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #2074806 is a reply to message #2065378 ] |
Thu, 11 November 2010 21:03 |
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bump
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #2089087 is a reply to message #1869242 ] |
Tue, 23 November 2010 22:37 |
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Thanks for the info so far.
But a question - does anyone know if paying by Bank Cheque (or Post Office Cheque) protects the buyer. ie if saddle doesn;t turn up can I get my money back?
I recently had 2 of my bank accounts 'cleaned out'. they somehow accessed my internet banking, transfered my money from our business account into our savings account, then withdrew everything into their own account!!!!! The worst feeling ever!! They left us with 5cents!! I have not given out any of my details to fake emails etc or accessed internet banking from any other computer than my own. I had my laptop checked for trojans, viruses, key strike viruses etc. Nothing showed up. Bank didn't question or even speak to me (after my initial enquiry). they refunded my money in full after 10 days. No explanations as to what happen!! i spoke to my bank manager about it and he said it happens more than the average person knows about. But it is all VERY hush hush from the banks because they don't want us losing confidencse in Internet banking.
Anyways I hope someone can let me know about Bank Cheques, other than that I will ask a few more personal qs about saddle (ie more pics of measurements, phone number etc, before sending bank chq.
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #2095444 is a reply to message #1869242 ] |
Mon, 29 November 2010 04:54 |
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I believe as long as you have a bank record of the cheque being issued and cashed in, then you can use this in minor claims and fraud charges within Australia.
Sometimes though paying by a cheque may have the seller feel apprehensive that there is not something fishy going on themselves, also just keep in mind that cheques take up to 7 working days to clear, which usually means the seller will not post until cleared which can lead to delays, if someone refuses a cheque it is not necessarily because they are dodgey 
Sorry to hear about your bank account though  , had never heard that one before
In your situation, do you think maybe it was like the lady that was on Current Affairs this week, where she had 1 million dollars deposited into her account in bank error, she worked hard and tirelessly to get the bank to finally recover the monies that were not hers! It turned out it was some luxury car companies money, who had not noticed it missing at that time
Maybe it was a bank error and they are trying to cover it up? Years ago I had 1/4 million dollars, in the days of bank books, deposited into my bank when the clerk mistakingly punched in that figure, rather then my pay of $275 and was in the account for over a week, my account was only used to save our home deposit so had not picked it up, still have the bank book as a keepsake, LOL
Some years later when the bank finally talked me into a keycard, we got married and I had gone to the bank I had banked with since a child and changed the account into my married name, the lazy teller it turns out had not changed over the paperwork. A few months later, a thief I worked with stole my purse, as well as the paymistress during our Christmas party, I immediately phoned the bank and put a stop on the account, in my married name. New Years Eve the thief stood at the ATM and fleeced our account of all of our savings. It took 6 months of Stat. Decs and endless visits/phone calls and after receiving a letter from the bank during the process of trying to recover our stolen money, they offered us a home loan, we had by then put together a sizeable deposit, I wrote back to our bank and within 1 week, was called in for a meeting with the Manager and our funds restored. The thief was able to access my account because the account was still in my maiden name.
Since that episode, it has shown that you don't have to just be the victim but seek justice, if someone decides to deceive me, I wont take it lying down, they are outed and I work on retrieving my stolen goods/money. Luckily, have had more great experiences dealing with people over the internt then not
I hope you find the perfect saddle.
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #2109735 is a reply to message #2097830 ] |
Fri, 10 December 2010 12:00 |
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Everyone can add SettingTheStandard to the list of people NOT to buy from
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| Re: Police efraud division - protection against dodgy sellers (incl. on Vichorse!) [message #2118327 is a reply to message #1869242 ] |
Wed, 29 December 2010 18:31 |
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Two names to be very careful of are:
Imogen Brown & Sienna Knight, there is a dodgy seller out there going under these 2 names.
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Also being a year old, the saddle had no stirrup marks or girth marks. She was happy at any offer and was right down to sorting out internet transfers STRAIGHT AWAY. Always super quick to reply to my emails. I was very keen but my senses were telling me that it was too good to be true. I asked for extra photos, with specific stuff like measuring tapes for gullet etc etc. No emails back hmmmm. Even if it was a genuine seller, Im glad that i listened to me instincts, better safe then sorry. It good to hear im not just overly paranoid.
i don't think we need to bump stickies 
