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Custom mixed mineral supplement wanted [message #2715766] Sat, 04 August 2012 09:12 Go to next message
  Equivarna  
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About 12 months ago I was given information on getting a mineral supplement made based on an actual soil analysis, but I can't find the information now. Anyone?


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Re: Custom mixed mineral supplement wanted [message #2715816 is a reply to message #2715766 ] Sat, 04 August 2012 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
  FCEH  
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I use Alyssa Brugman from Sound Advice Horse Health.

She arranged my analysis and also makes up my mineral blend.

Her costs are very reasonable and the service is very good.

I can also buy various raw supplements for specific horses at good prices.

www.soundadvicehorsehealth.com.au
Re: Custom mixed mineral supplement wanted [message #2715900 is a reply to message #2715816 ] Sat, 04 August 2012 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Custom mixed mineral supplement wanted [message #2715971 is a reply to message #2715766 ] Sat, 04 August 2012 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
  Equivarna  
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Thanks. Smile


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Re: Custom mixed mineral supplement wanted [message #2716302 is a reply to message #2715766 ] Sat, 04 August 2012 22:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Custom mixed mineral supplement wanted [message #2716332 is a reply to message #2715766 ] Sat, 04 August 2012 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Custom mixed mineral supplement wanted [message #2716382 is a reply to message #2715766 ] Sun, 05 August 2012 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
  Equivarna  
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I've contacted both at this stage, and will probably make a decision after a closer look at actual quantities of individual components, but it's an eye opening process, once you actually start looking at what is in some of the big brand name supplements. (Thanks to FTD for putting me onto one that at least doesn't contain iron).

Most of the mainstream brands, contain significant amounts of iron and manganese, despite the fact that fodder from south east Australia at least, is rich in these minerals. Allowing that an excess of these two minerals blocks the uptake of copper and zinc, it is quite possible, even likely, that a significant component of the expensive mineral supplement you are feeding, is in fact cancelling itself out and could even be doing more harm than good.

Our primary goal at this point is to correct the imbalances in the soil, so we haven't done a plant tissue analysis, which would give a more precise picture of mineral imbalance in the pasture than the soil test we have had done, so we are fudging it a bit. Hopefully in 12 months when some of the issues have been addressed it will be worth doing that and we can gain an accurate indication of what we need to be supplementing with.

Given that a plant tissue analysis costs less than 3 months of supplements, I think anyone would be mad to not get it done.

[Updated on: Sun, 05 August 2012 08:46]


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Re: Custom mixed mineral supplement wanted [message #2716383 is a reply to message #2715766 ] Sun, 05 August 2012 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
  Groucho  
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Exactly, Ive sent my winter pasture analysis away to the US only this week...

Will top off the 4 seasons and show any seasonal changes that need addressing.

For $26 plus postage...its crazy not to have a crack at a more precise way of formulating diets

Are you using the US company Phil? Because I had a hard time finding an Australian one to do the plant tissue analysis, only soil testing seems available

[Updated on: Sun, 05 August 2012 08:52]

Re: Custom mixed mineral supplement wanted [message #2716457 is a reply to message #2715766 ] Sun, 05 August 2012 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
  FCEH  
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The USA company that Alyssa used for me had the results back very quickly and it's as cheap as chips ($30)

I had pasture and 2 lots of hay tested. - $90.
Same cost as 1 tub of Cell Vital!


Biggest eye opener for us was the very high calcium in our grass and in the hay that was purchased from a farm around the corner.
I'd been feeding a calcium supp for years! What a waste AND potentially negative side effects.

I now get a bulk amount of mineral blend with everything I want in it. Alyssa will chuck in extra of anything your particular horses need - eg I give yea sacc as well (probiotic).

Plus she'll blend in something for ulcer prone horses too.

I'm saving money AND the horses are looking terrific.

The diet change she helped me arrange is also perfectly balanced and again, quite a big dollar saving.

Re: Custom mixed mineral supplement wanted [message #2716838 is a reply to message #2716383 ] Sun, 05 August 2012 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
  Equivarna  
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I used SWEP for the soil test and I know they do plant tissue, but I suspect they charge more than that also,whoever you buy your mineral mix will probably prefer you use a specified tester for consistency


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Re: Custom mixed mineral supplement wanted [message #2716947 is a reply to message #2715766 ] Mon, 06 August 2012 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
  mbqh  is currently offline mbqh  
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Groucho, Feed Test in Hamilton, Vic do all plant analysis, I use them twice a year myself. Much more expensive than the US one for full analysis, but I prefer it because I can not fathom how the process you have to follow to send it to the US doesn't alter the nutritional levels in fresh grass.

Here is the link to Feed Test. http://www.feedtest.com.au/

Soil testing is good for assisting with the grasses you are wanting to grow, but your horse doesn't eat soil, so make sure you get the pasture tested.
Re: Custom mixed mineral supplement wanted [message #2716954 is a reply to message #2715766 ] Mon, 06 August 2012 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
  Groucho  
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Its weird, some of the sample information says to microwave the grass, which my first thought would have been destruction of nutrients

The other says to freeze it, which makes more sense to lock the nutrients in.

I froze my samples before sending...sure they wont be frozen by the time they reach the US

Thats great I might use the Australian company next time Smile
Re: Custom mixed mineral supplement wanted [message #2716959 is a reply to message #2715766 ] Mon, 06 August 2012 09:04 Go to previous message
  mbqh  is currently offline mbqh  
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Yeah, Feed Test want you to send it on a Monday so no chance of weekends etc, and are pretty adament they want it as fast as possible. Freezing is definitely better than microwaving!
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