http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php VicHorse RDF feed http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1901794&th=131899#msg_1901794 I think I like the sound of them!?]]> jesso18 2010-06-23T03:53:23-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1901797&th=131899#msg_1901797 Groucho 2010-06-23T03:54:02-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1901802&th=131899#msg_1901802 Yeah they sure do
http://www.jamesandson.com.au/index.php?p=36&t=Horse%20F eed%20Range]]> jesso18 2010-06-23T03:57:01-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1901807&th=131899#msg_1901807
edit to add, they fed High- E]]> sayanything 2010-06-23T04:00:15-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1901813&th=131899#msg_1901813 , nice ingredients, no crappy fillers, nothing "by producty" about it

I like the protein and DE of it

The one thing though is the feed rate is massive...7.5kgs a day

The conditioner also looks good...but again the feed rate seems massive to me

I like their ingredients, just a 7.50kg feed rate for a 500kg horse seems pretty large

]]> Groucho 2010-06-23T04:03:58-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1901815&th=131899#msg_1901815 )

We have everything from broodies, spelling racehorses, foals, weaners/ breakers, working stockhorses and warmbloods!



]]> Doza 2010-06-23T04:05:52-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1901825&th=131899#msg_1901825
I was feeding it but my horse could not handle it as in I found it heated him up.]]> Becks 2010-06-23T04:11:07-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1901830&th=131899#msg_1901830 I thought the same thing, that it was a large amount of feed!

The other plus is the bulks bags, meaning I won't have to buy if as often, given the illusion that it's cheaper.
I have found a source where I can get it quite cheap, cheaper than what I'm currently feeding!

Are their products on feedxl? ]]> jesso18 2010-06-23T04:14:09-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1901835&th=131899#msg_1901835 jesso18 wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 14:14
Why I ask is because as Groucho said I like that there are no "fillers"!
I thought the same thing, that it was a large amount of feed!

The other plus is the bulks bags, meaning I won't have to buy if as often, given the illusion that it's cheaper.
I have found a source where I can get it quite cheap, cheaper than what I'm currently feeding!

Are their products on feedxl?


Im quite sure Ive seen them on there, so it might turn out you dont need the full feed rate....maybe
]]> Groucho 2010-06-23T04:15:24-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1901854&th=131899#msg_1901854 See what I can find, it would be nice to be able to feed a reduced rate!
Thanks for your help]]> jesso18 2010-06-23T04:27:14-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1901915&th=131899#msg_1901915 I feed the conditioner. My Galloways gets a dipper a day and some chaff.. He looks like a whale.]]> jodievb 2010-06-23T05:04:54-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1901968&th=131899#msg_1901968
I found my WB went insane on it... the two TB's and mare not so bad but still not their usual calm selves...

So changed their feed and the WB became 'sane' again

Balmoral use to feed it to all horses on the property, but changed feeds due to the expense of it... and they where buying it in bulka bags too]]> louise7 2010-06-23T05:31:18-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1901998&th=131899#msg_1901998
So while whinging at produce a trainer came in and suggested I try James and sons. We started using the HiPro as we have horses of all ages and I found it really good. Much cheaper than the grotorque and still a feed where you can actually see the ingredients ie. not pellets.

We never had a problem with the horses getting too hot but I can see it could be a problem as very high in grain - ofcourse depending on the one you get.

Also we had huge probs getting it into the Yarra Valley without having to order bulk bags and I didn't want them as you end up with a whole ton of feed open at once. They reckon the distributor out this way didn't deal with them at the time, but this could have changed?

But basically quite happy with them - just can't get all the way over to Sunshine at the moment to get them.]]> skybee 2010-06-23T05:55:48-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902178&th=131899#msg_1902178 but soon turned to .

My dear Rem went off her nut, unfortunately I found out how hot it made her while warming up at a SJ comp . She certainly got off the ground but that was before and after the jumps. I didn't think she could buck so convincingly I think that it may have been the extra corn, but being no expert, I just took her off the feed and she reverted to my usual calm(er) girl.]]> lizpee 2010-06-23T08:19:12-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902368&th=131899#msg_1902368

Im trying to work out if its the ingredients or the quantity that would be causing the issue

The DE (Digestible Energy) isnt massively high considering the ingredients, so Im leaning towards to feed rate as the problem ]]> Groucho 2010-06-23T10:11:58-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902389&th=131899#msg_1902389
Ok now looking at the High E my...8.2 KGs a day!!! How much a kg is that?]]> Mirrhi 2010-06-23T10:25:11-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902440&th=131899#msg_1902440 Used their Hi E and now other horse feeds of them, as my coach is sponsored by them and I order through her.
Cheers MARTINA]]> martina 2010-06-23T11:04:44-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902494&th=131899#msg_1902494 chezvic 2010-06-23T11:44:50-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902527&th=131899#msg_1902527 Mirrhi wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 20:25
I was a little worried when I first read James and sons because I know that they are a huge supplier of Cattle feeds...but I see that their horse products come out of a designated horse feed mill. That is a relief. I wouldnt use horse feed that came out of a place that also had Rumensin go through their mill.

Ok now looking at the High E my...8.2 KGs a day!!! How much a kg is that?


I had some free sample bags and liked it, but heard there was once a contamination scare a yr or 2 back, so maybe they have changed plants? I would be ringing and find out, if so I woulld be happy to use it again.]]> geegee 2010-06-23T12:06:23-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902550&th=131899#msg_1902550 goodmich 2010-06-23T12:16:50-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902693&th=131899#msg_1902693 goodmich wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 22:16
I use the conditioner and just love it. I have ajavascript:%20insertTag(document.post_form.msg_body,%20'',% 20'%20:o%20'); WBXTB and she looks fantastic on it. It doesnt heat her up but maintains her condition. Having spoken to the company i think the recommendation of 7kg a day is typo . I only feed 3kg a aday and that is plenty i sometimes add the high E when i am working her harder.



I farking hope not!!! Thats a huge TYPO to have.. If they can fark that up then what about the feeds??

I think I will ring myself and find out... ]]> Mirrhi 2010-06-23T13:46:44-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902738&th=131899#msg_1902738 goodmich wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 22:16
I use the conditioner and just love it. I have a WBXTB and she looks fantastic on it. It doesnt heat her up but maintains her condition. Having spoken to the company i think the recommendation of 7kg a day is typo. I only feed 3kg a aday and that is plenty i sometimes add the high E when i am working her harder.




All the feeds have the same recommended rate...so lots of typos if thats the case

]]> Groucho 2010-06-23T20:28:51-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902739&th=131899#msg_1902739 Groucho 2010-06-23T20:30:04-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902831&th=131899#msg_1902831 I just feed it with oaten chaff and he gets grass hay..
I think I weighed my scoop of the conditioner and it was 1.25kg and he gets half a scoop at most morning and night. the pellets I think weigh a bit more in my scoop but he really only gets the equivelant of 2 large handfuls of the pellets.
I did also try a bag of the high performance mix, which he loved, but he is a forward horse anyway so I decided not to continue with it.. I would only give a handful of it when he had a comp or something.
I am finding it really cheap and he loves it.. I just adjust the amounts as I see fit.. the pellets seem to help if you want to add a bit of weight to them, but again I have found I only need to feed small amounts..
My vet buys it in bulk and I just buy the bags from them..
It is on Feed XL as well as a friend did a analysis for me and was amazed that it all balanced really well..]]> Kathorse 2010-06-23T22:57:29-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902840&th=131899#msg_1902840 chezvic wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 21:44
Mary Hanna and Natasha Althoff use them so I'd be happy to use a product that's endorsed by either of those ladies as I'm sure they wouldn't put their names to something that they didn't feel was good.

You'd be surprised how many names are to a product and they are not used or haven't even be seen as such !!
Cheers MARTINA
PS: Oh, but nothing wrong with James & son horse feed, that's for sure ]]> martina 2010-06-23T23:07:42-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902848&th=131899#msg_1902848 jodievb wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 15:04
I feed it and have done for a while now..
I feed the conditioner. My Galloways gets a dipper a day and some chaff.. He looks like a whale.


Not surprised he is a whale ..... if you mean you use Ted's heavy truck "dipper" !!! Wow that would cost you a fortune a month to use that much feed
]]> martina 2010-06-23T23:11:33-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902889&th=131899#msg_1902889
Having a few breeds we have varying requirements and I used to have a lot of different feeds to suit ...divided the brats into groups of who needs what.
Gives me the pip and I have settled on a small number of mixed feeds that I love.

The only pellets we use are(hygain) prodigy(only occassionally)...very carefully as you can ruin youngsters if you dont watch them...have also found them good for some of the ponies as a bit of 'extra'.

Mixed feeds we use are (hygain)show torque and (mitavite)athlete plus.
The reason we use these 2 mixed feeds is my fusspots cant pick out the things they dont like in the athlete plus

Other than those it's oats,barley chaff etc and mix it myself.

I am very reluctant to use any feed that states it has protein meals but doesnt tell you exactly which meal.]]> ahorseisahorse 2010-06-23T23:34:57-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902899&th=131899#msg_1902899 But the $$ and the feed store not having a constant supply has mde me go onto other feeds.
Still think High E is a great feed tho ]]> groveborn 2010-06-23T23:40:41-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902955&th=131899#msg_1902955 martina wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 09:11

jodievb wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 15:04

I feed it and have done for a while now.. I feed the conditioner. My Galloways gets a dipper a day and some chaff.. He looks like a whale.

Not surprised he is a whale ..... if you mean you use Ted's heavy truck "dipper" !!! Wow that would cost you a fortune a month to use that much feed



LOL no just a normal dipper. I can't help it he is a good doer.]]> jodievb 2010-06-24T00:08:35-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1902988&th=131899#msg_1902988 I've started feeding it to him over winter to give him something extra in the cold. He hasnt gotten hot or changed his behavior at all. ]]> Larnie 2010-06-24T00:34:05-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1903072&th=131899#msg_1903072 martina wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 09:07

chezvic wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 21:44

Mary Hanna and Natasha Althoff use them so I'd be happy to use a product that's endorsed by either of those ladies as I'm sure they wouldn't put their names to something that they didn't feel was good.

You'd be surprised how many names are to a product and they are not used or haven't even be seen as such !!
Cheers MARTINA
PS: Oh, but nothing wrong with James & son horse feed, that's for sure


Tash's team at Ebony Park are all on James & Son feed - not just a face to a product ]]> Kiki 2010-06-24T01:13:34-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1903818&th=131899#msg_1903818 Kiki wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 11:13

martina wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 09:07

chezvic wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 21:44 Mary Hanna and Natasha Althoff use them so I'd be happy to use a product that's endorsed by either of those ladies as I'm sure they wouldn't put their names to something that they didn't feel was good. You'd be surprised how many names are to a product and they are not used or haven't even be seen as such !! Cheers MARTINA PS: Oh, but nothing wrong with James & son horse feed, that's for sure

Tash's team at Ebony Park are all on James & Son feed - not just a face to a product


Sure - Sure ..... wasn't questioning it with above mentioned VIP's ! Just in general "products" - so I would still check it out for myself, even though "god" might be using it
Cheers MARTINA
PS: I am a bit about reading that it gave a few horses more energy or almost too much .... didn't happen to my horse , but that was my intention !]]> martina 2010-06-24T09:40:20-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1904166&th=131899#msg_1904166 ]]> LisaS 2010-06-24T13:48:12-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1904174&th=131899#msg_1904174 ]]> LisaS 2010-06-24T13:53:17-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1904180&th=131899#msg_1904180 LisaS 2010-06-24T13:58:35-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1905053&th=131899#msg_1905053

Interesting that there are so many horses that have become heated on it whilst others havnt. ]]> Kiki 2010-06-25T08:01:50-00:00 http://vichorse.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=1908063&th=131899#msg_1908063 . Less than $1/kg is very reasonable imo, for the quality of product ]]> Thelwell 2010-06-27T23:51:33-00:00